Discussion:
[Freeswitch-users] When to use OpenSIPS/Kamailio in front of FS?
Gavin Henry
2009-06-14 20:34:15 UTC
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Hi,

I'm excited reading all the threads about how FS blows Asterisk away
so that you don't need OpenSIPS/Kamailio in front of FS. Surely there
must be a point when it would be advisable to do that though, as
mod_sofia can't be as good as a dedicated SIP proxy?

Thanks.
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Nik Middleton
2009-06-14 21:38:02 UTC
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Anything that's dedicated undoubtedly has less load that something
that's multifunctioned. However the lack of any conversations on front
ending a SIP server to FS would likely indicate that no one's found a
requirement for it at this time.

I would truly hate to see discussions of theoretical performance
advantages of one SIP server over another, when in my view, I have yet
to reach any real world limit with FS. My FS servers are handling
100,000+ calls/day per server and are probably only at 50% capacity. (I
see no point in beating a server to pulp when it's relatively cheap to
add another if required)

Regards


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Gavin Henry
Sent: 14 June 2009 21:34
To: freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org
Subject: [Freeswitch-users] When to use OpenSIPS/Kamailio in front of
FS?

Hi,

I'm excited reading all the threads about how FS blows Asterisk away
so that you don't need OpenSIPS/Kamailio in front of FS. Surely there
must be a point when it would be advisable to do that though, as
mod_sofia can't be as good as a dedicated SIP proxy?

Thanks.
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Gavin Henry
2009-06-15 08:47:54 UTC
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OK, thanks.
Post by Nik Middleton
Anything that's dedicated undoubtedly has less load that something
that's multifunctioned. ?However the lack of any conversations on front
ending a SIP server to FS would likely indicate that no one's found a
requirement for it at this time.
I would truly hate to see discussions of theoretical performance
advantages of one SIP server over another, when in my view, I have yet
to reach any real world limit with FS. ?My FS servers are handling
100,000+ calls/day per server and are probably only at 50% capacity. (I
see no point in beating a server to pulp when it's relatively cheap to
add another if required)
Regards
-----Original Message-----
From: freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org
[mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of
Gavin Henry
Sent: 14 June 2009 21:34
To: freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org
Subject: [Freeswitch-users] When to use OpenSIPS/Kamailio in front of
FS?
Hi,
I'm excited reading all the threads about how FS blows Asterisk away
so that you don't need ?OpenSIPS/Kamailio in front of FS. Surely there
must be a point when it would be advisable to do that though, as
mod_sofia can't be as good as a dedicated SIP proxy?
Thanks.
--
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Even André Fiskvik
2009-06-15 09:01:27 UTC
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Well, we currently have a scenario where this seems to be the most
logical setup currently.
We provide PBX as a Service (SaaS), and want to have a cluster of
FreeSwitch servers
handling registration and presence.
Introducing OpenSIPS in front will allow a couple of features, which I
don't see how would be
implemented in a "good" way without anything in front of FS:
- "true" loadbalancing with the loadbalancer module
- Live migration of calls to another server to take FS down for
maintenance
- no need for 100% SRV support in the SIP clients


Best regards,

Even Andr?
Post by Gavin Henry
OK, thanks.
Post by Nik Middleton
Anything that's dedicated undoubtedly has less load that something
that's multifunctioned. However the lack of any conversations on front
ending a SIP server to FS would likely indicate that no one's found a
requirement for it at this time.
I would truly hate to see discussions of theoretical performance
advantages of one SIP server over another, when in my view, I have yet
to reach any real world limit with FS. My FS servers are handling
100,000+ calls/day per server and are probably only at 50%
capacity. (I
see no point in beating a server to pulp when it's relatively cheap to
add another if required)
Regards
-----Original Message-----
From: freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org
[mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of
Gavin Henry
Sent: 14 June 2009 21:34
To: freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org
Subject: [Freeswitch-users] When to use OpenSIPS/Kamailio in front of
FS?
Hi,
I'm excited reading all the threads about how FS blows Asterisk away
so that you don't need OpenSIPS/Kamailio in front of FS. Surely there
must be a point when it would be advisable to do that though, as
mod_sofia can't be as good as a dedicated SIP proxy?
Thanks.
--
Sent from my mobile device
http://www.suretecsystems.com/services/openldap/
http://www.suretectelecom.com
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Even André Fiskvik
2009-06-15 09:01:27 UTC
Permalink
Well, we currently have a scenario where this seems to be the most
logical setup currently.
We provide PBX as a Service (SaaS), and want to have a cluster of
FreeSwitch servers
handling registration and presence.
Introducing OpenSIPS in front will allow a couple of features, which I
don't see how would be
implemented in a "good" way without anything in front of FS:
- "true" loadbalancing with the loadbalancer module
- Live migration of calls to another server to take FS down for
maintenance
- no need for 100% SRV support in the SIP clients


Best regards,

Even Andr?
Post by Gavin Henry
OK, thanks.
Post by Nik Middleton
Anything that's dedicated undoubtedly has less load that something
that's multifunctioned. However the lack of any conversations on front
ending a SIP server to FS would likely indicate that no one's found a
requirement for it at this time.
I would truly hate to see discussions of theoretical performance
advantages of one SIP server over another, when in my view, I have yet
to reach any real world limit with FS. My FS servers are handling
100,000+ calls/day per server and are probably only at 50%
capacity. (I
see no point in beating a server to pulp when it's relatively cheap to
add another if required)
Regards
-----Original Message-----
From: freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org
[mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of
Gavin Henry
Sent: 14 June 2009 21:34
To: freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org
Subject: [Freeswitch-users] When to use OpenSIPS/Kamailio in front of
FS?
Hi,
I'm excited reading all the threads about how FS blows Asterisk away
so that you don't need OpenSIPS/Kamailio in front of FS. Surely there
must be a point when it would be advisable to do that though, as
mod_sofia can't be as good as a dedicated SIP proxy?
Thanks.
--
Sent from my mobile device
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http://www.suretectelecom.com
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Gavin Henry
2009-06-15 08:47:54 UTC
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OK, thanks.
Post by Nik Middleton
Anything that's dedicated undoubtedly has less load that something
that's multifunctioned. ?However the lack of any conversations on front
ending a SIP server to FS would likely indicate that no one's found a
requirement for it at this time.
I would truly hate to see discussions of theoretical performance
advantages of one SIP server over another, when in my view, I have yet
to reach any real world limit with FS. ?My FS servers are handling
100,000+ calls/day per server and are probably only at 50% capacity. (I
see no point in beating a server to pulp when it's relatively cheap to
add another if required)
Regards
-----Original Message-----
From: freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org
[mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of
Gavin Henry
Sent: 14 June 2009 21:34
To: freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org
Subject: [Freeswitch-users] When to use OpenSIPS/Kamailio in front of
FS?
Hi,
I'm excited reading all the threads about how FS blows Asterisk away
so that you don't need ?OpenSIPS/Kamailio in front of FS. Surely there
must be a point when it would be advisable to do that though, as
mod_sofia can't be as good as a dedicated SIP proxy?
Thanks.
--
Sent from my mobile device
http://www.suretecsystems.com/services/openldap/
http://www.suretectelecom.com
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Gavin Henry
2009-06-14 20:34:15 UTC
Permalink
Hi,

I'm excited reading all the threads about how FS blows Asterisk away
so that you don't need OpenSIPS/Kamailio in front of FS. Surely there
must be a point when it would be advisable to do that though, as
mod_sofia can't be as good as a dedicated SIP proxy?

Thanks.
--
Sent from my mobile device

http://www.suretecsystems.com/services/openldap/
http://www.suretectelecom.com
Nik Middleton
2009-06-14 21:38:02 UTC
Permalink
Anything that's dedicated undoubtedly has less load that something
that's multifunctioned. However the lack of any conversations on front
ending a SIP server to FS would likely indicate that no one's found a
requirement for it at this time.

I would truly hate to see discussions of theoretical performance
advantages of one SIP server over another, when in my view, I have yet
to reach any real world limit with FS. My FS servers are handling
100,000+ calls/day per server and are probably only at 50% capacity. (I
see no point in beating a server to pulp when it's relatively cheap to
add another if required)

Regards


-----Original Message-----
From: freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org
[mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of
Gavin Henry
Sent: 14 June 2009 21:34
To: freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org
Subject: [Freeswitch-users] When to use OpenSIPS/Kamailio in front of
FS?

Hi,

I'm excited reading all the threads about how FS blows Asterisk away
so that you don't need OpenSIPS/Kamailio in front of FS. Surely there
must be a point when it would be advisable to do that though, as
mod_sofia can't be as good as a dedicated SIP proxy?

Thanks.
--
Sent from my mobile device

http://www.suretecsystems.com/services/openldap/
http://www.suretectelecom.com

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